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how the hell are we doing I are sad

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shatters it's a beautiful day to drink a

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little drink a perfect time to smoke a

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little smoke I'm your humble host Greg

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Carl wood from the mean streets of sunny

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San Diego and today we're wading through

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a raging river of Lies perpetrated by

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NASA the global elite religious

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institutions and God knows who else

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about the moon Saturn spaceships Jesus

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and the goddamn chupacabra but before we

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dive in I want to tell you people about

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the new conspiracy HQ that's launching

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July 1st

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Freeman fly Frederick's Rob Davin Mark

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Howard and myself have decided to join

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forces because it really takes a team to

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have a fully operational website these

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days with news articles of course videos

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and podcasts so it should be great stuff

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I love all those guys they're talented

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dudes I'm surprised they'd want me in

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that group of heavy hitters but hey I'll

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take it because when I look at a really

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successful full-bodied website or groups

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like The Young Turks or Infowars there

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really are whole teams working together

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on those things and we want to do the

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same kind of thing for our kind of

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conspiracy people so look out for that

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July 1st conspiracy hq.com also this

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money bomb is brought in $1600 so far

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listener and I hope this is okay with

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everyone I hate to change the rules in

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the middle of the game but I want to

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spread the love out so a new rule for

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the money bomb is that when it goes over

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a thousand bucks total or 500 for me 500

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for the listener I'm gonna split it up

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between two people so 250 and 250 so

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right now we have a situation where on

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June 24th I will pick two Money bomb

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winners and I will be giving each of

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them at least $400 so if we want to

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boost those numbers and help out the

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show please hop over to the higher side

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chats com / donate and throw in 5 bucks

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or so and we'll see what happens in just

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a few days thanks so much this is the

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biggest money bomb yet

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I'm gonna skip the usual spots for the

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sake of getting down to brass tacks with

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the man himself Robert Morningstar enjoy

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okay people we know by now that the

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world is far stranger than the shadowy

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elite like to make it seem and when you

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start looking at stories of et contact

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alien races abductions UFO crashes and

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satellite imagery on both the Moon and

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anecdotal stories it's easy to start

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feeling like you're the odd man out at a

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boring nine-to-five reality when a world

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believe me folks I've known the feeling

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and with the secret space program in

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breakaway civilization conference just

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around the bend on June 28th and 29th in

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San Mateo California what better way to

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explore the hidden reality than by

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talking it out with Robert Morningstar

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who was a legend in the field and a guy

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who I would consider one of the most

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compelling speakers on an already packed

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panel of powerhouses Robert has studied

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the paranormal and UFOs for over 40

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years and has published many research

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articles online exposing government

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assassination he's also written

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life and exposing the real nature and

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threat of the UFO phenomenon and he is

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also the associate editor of the famed

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UFO digest you know um you love them

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Robert Warren Starr welcome to THC thank

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you very much it's a pleasure to be here

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yeah man thanks for doing this on such

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short notice so close to the big

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conference I mean I've been listening to

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you talk about these subjects for years

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man and I'm always intrigued and I'm

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presentation if I can get away from my

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booth for a little while and I don't

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want to step all over your presentation

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material but can you give us an idea

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which we'll be focusing on this time I

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think the moon's a big part of it right

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the moon is a big part of it I'm going

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to take the audience on a journey to

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Mars and then back to the moon and then

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everyone's going to have a totally new

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consciousness that's my goal my goal

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when I was invited and I heard the name

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of the of the event the idea of the

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breakaway civilization my instant

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reaction my first phrase to myself

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to have a breakaway civilization you

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have to have a breakaway consciousness

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mm-hm and I proposed that to jiron van

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Straten and Henrik Palme grin who are

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the organizers and they like the idea

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and this is the thing that we we need to

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the Moon and what awaits us is a

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presence that has been there I believe

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since what we would say time immemorial

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an intelligence that has been

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interacting with mankind or

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intelligences there several and some are

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that's that's my concern that there is

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not a clear distinction in as to who the

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players are on this very high level of

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resources and lives on planet Earth yeah

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so that'll be a big a trip to Mars we're

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junkyard and I expect to show some

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remarkable work from some of my

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teammates teammates are people who have

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been in contact with me for a while or

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long while or a short while but who see

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eye-to-eye with me and who see with the

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same kind of vision which is I like to

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things 20/20 vision and a 20/20 tongue

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which means I see what I see and I say

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what I see and that's the way and if I'm

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wrong I welcome Corrections course

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corrections are very important to be

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wrong and a couple of things is is not a

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failure to be wrong be shown you're

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wrong and stay wrong that's a failure

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people think that if you get one thing

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wrong you're totally discredited I'd

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like to remind people about school you

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know tests you know if you got from one

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hundred to ninety you still had an a

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even though you got you know nine

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questions wrong and then you worked your

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way down it wasn't it's not a total loss

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to be wrong about some elements right

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but to be self-deluded to accept

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falsehood as truth as our fellow

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citizens have for fifty years since the

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time of the assassination of President

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Kennedy who was and remains very dear to

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want to break that mind-control

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apparatus by showing people what has

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been hidden from us for fifty years in

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the JFK assassination for forty two

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years with regard to the Apollo

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be great man I mean and you're right

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accurate when you're dealing with this

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level of deception you know it's a

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process it's hazy but I think you do a

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great job man so no problem and in terms

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of the moon you know I think it is so

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about what might be on the far side of

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the Moon and where the moon might have

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come from and you have all these

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airbrushed NASA photos right some

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researchers go so far as to say that

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it's a hollow artificial Space Station

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myself because you can't trust anything

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anymore I agree I agree you know I I

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everything that NASA puts up on its

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pages and in recent months I've had a

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trolls and gremlins have follow me

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around on my internet site on Facebook

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on and they try to sabotage my work and

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throw monkey wrenches into it but

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unwilling unwittingly and trying to

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prove me wrong these same people have

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sent me links to say see you're wrong

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you're wrong hahaha and I opened up the

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link and guess what the links they sent

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me led me to the discoveries that I'm

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going to be the exposing or shown and

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you know what debate is important

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harassment is is

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fun but when somebody starts to harass

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you and bully you because that's what it

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it's internet harassment and bullying

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and isn't when people get a get together

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in groups it is a crime and it's called

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predatory gang stalking mm-hmm I'm very

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up on this because it's happened for so

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many years people didn't have a word to

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wrap their heads around or label what

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was being done to them but the term is

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predatory gang stalking and it's become

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a modus operandi a standard operating

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procedure in in government in

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bureaucracies and corporations and in

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just in general society flash mob being

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we're going to hit that store everybody

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show up or you know we're gonna ransack

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anyway that is a sample of it and it

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happens to all of us so be aware folks

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and you do have recourse you can go to

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the FBI and tell them listen somebody's

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really harassing me and messing with my

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email and I've done that actually I have

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had good contacts with the FBI everybody

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thinks they're boogie men but they

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really are good up right outstanding men

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and the ones that were involved in the

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Kennedy assassination were under great

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duress and I say to the FBI I thank you

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very much for all the work you do and

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all the work you've done to save my life

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a couple of times we can get into that

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the FBI helped me when I had a very

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serious very serious problem flying in a

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single-engine aircraft over Kennedy

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Airport of all places where all of my

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electrical systems went out navigation

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landing gear the fortunately the

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airplanes are set up to keep running

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even when the electricity because they

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have Magneto's so they keep running but

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everything else was shot and I made it

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back to the airport thinking that I was

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going to have to make a landing on the

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grass because the the retractable

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landing gear was up

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and when I pushed the switch to get it

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down it wasn't locking in you're

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supposed to get three green lights when

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your nose gear and your your wing gear

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is locked in place and they were just

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swinging and I said oh my god you know

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I helped destroy the airplane but

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fortunately I found out that the FBI had

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followed my plane all the way to the

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airport and had warned the airport that

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I was in trouble so when I got close to

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the airport I heard a voice to say Piper

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Piper arrow and so and so if you're the

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airplane with trouble click your mic

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twice you're cleared and wet runway to -

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the nicest thing I've ever heard

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Wow yeah and I was able to make it back

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so I found out that it was the FBI on my

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tail that helped me get back fortunate

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just before I landed the landing gear

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locked into place because in slowing

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down the plane from 140 knots to the

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landing speed which was 76 the wind

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abated somehow and when we got a little

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tap on a grounding wire which was the

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problem and I was able to get the gear

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down oh man your lead an interesting

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life an interesting wildlife and I had

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lucky there but so I wanted to ask you a

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little bit about kind of the hidden

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history of the solar system because I

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hear this talked about more and more and

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it's it's fascinating stuff I mean a lot

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of researchers you know you talked about

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maybe different et groups that have been

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here for a long time and there are

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researchers that kind of speculate that

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humanity may have come from somewhere

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else like even Mars and may yes I agree

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you do like lately yes I do do you think

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that some races are indigenous to Mars

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and some were indigenous to Earth uh yes

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I do believe that I believe that there

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was parallel evolution not only on Mars

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and Earth but on the moon and some of

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the moons of Saturn you asked me earlier

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I think was you who talked in mentioned

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about the Sun that Saturn was once a Sun

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yes

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foremost or one of the world's foremost

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experts in gravitational physics is dr.

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Edie bell Bruno of Princeton University

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and he wrote a book called fly me to the

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moon and when he released it I went to

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hear him speak and there were copies of

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his book around and I do did a review of

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it but when I opened up his book the

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first page that I opened to stated that

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in the early history of the solar system

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Saturn was a son Saturn was a son and we

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were a binary star system and that it

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died down it didn't really it started up

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but it didn't jumpstart to the full

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fusion stage and it died down another

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theory is that Jupiter I've heard that

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we were once a triple Sun system in the

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very early you know the hot really hot

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period of the level of the evolution of

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the solar system that Saturn Jupiter and

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our Sun Sol where we comprised a three

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Sun system if that is true then you can

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see that Jupiter and Saturn would have

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been many solar systems you know with

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little - they would have been minor

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stars and - our major star the Sun and

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as I say god only knows what he could

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cook up in that primordial soup with

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twelve moons on Jupiter and eleven moons

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on Saturn one interesting thing about

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Saturn that I would share with you now

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in 1949

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project sign which became project grudge

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which became Project Blue Book was

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concerned with the UFO problem and the

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problem of these giant mother ships that

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had been observed taking positions in

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equatorial orbits around the earth and

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from these mother ships the Scout ships

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were descending Scout ships being the

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smaller craft like the ones occur

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Roswell the ones plural there were two

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UFOs that crashed at Roswell and one

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landed in the foster ranch and the other

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one landed in the plains of San Agustin

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great book has been written by Arthur

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Campbell regarding the recovery of

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artifacts from the plains of st.

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Augustine and I recommend that to

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everyone is the most profound and

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thoroughly scientific book that I

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believe I've ever read or seen on the

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Roswell crash and they found pieces of

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high density polyethylene which along

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with certain metal fragments which

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seemed to have components of

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otherworldly molecules so I recommend

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the UFO crash on the plains of st.

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Augustine or Augustine in with by Arthur

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H Campbell so this project sign memo

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that I read as part of those majestic 12

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documents that you can find in dr.

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Robert woods website majestic majestic

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12 I believe is the website just a comma

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or either way the statement was this

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that the United States government the

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United States Air Force Department of

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Defense had enlisted the top astronomers

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and the straw top astronomy

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observatories astronomical observatories

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to try to track the UFOs to see where

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these fleets of UFOs were coming from

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and they did so and they reported back

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to the United States Department of

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Defense that they had tracked these

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fleets the mother ships through their

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powerful telescopes and that they found

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that they were originating coming -

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coming from and going back to the moon

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Titan Wow Saturn's moon Titan yeah

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there's a lot of speculation about Titan

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having vast oceans

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that's pretty interesting vast oceans of

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methane hmm yeah thing even weirder

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weirder Titan looks more like planet

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Earth topographically speaking than any

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other of the moons or planets that we've

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explored and has terrain and mountain

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ranges and continents but the oceans are

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made of liquid methane which I believe

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is something like 167 degrees below zero

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and of course we we believe that you

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know no life can exist in such climes

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but about three years ago a few NASA

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scientists came out and said that they

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had found a special form of life in Mono

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Lake California which was based on

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arsenic it was a cell or culture that

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reproduced itself and its metabolism and

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it's life cycle

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was based not on carbon but an arsenic

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of all things I do remember seeing that

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yeah very odd well this and and the

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premise of this revelation was her her

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name was dr. wolf and she had hyphenated

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names but I don't remember dr. wolf or

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Wolfson but she said a very interesting

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thing she said the important thing about

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their finding was that the search for

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life as we have conducted it for the

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last 40 years life on Mars life on the

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moon life anywhere has been conducted

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through to narrow a window

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we've been looking only for carbon-based

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life and this showed that there is

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another form of life that was based on

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arsenic and then she made the most

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amazing statement she said now this life

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form cannot thrive on earth because the

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temperature is too hot it needs all of

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its energy just to maintain its its

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steady state so it cannot expand

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propagate reproduce it just has to keep

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accumulating the arsenic to maintain its

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a steady state existence however on

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another planet where the temperature was

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much

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colder than Earth and she then said

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perhaps on some place like Saturn's moon

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Titan where the temperature is a hundred

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and sixty-seven below zero it might be

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possible for such an organism to thrive

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and propagate that was the

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earth-shattering statement and the

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really the important thing was pointing

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out that they perhaps the paradigm is

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wrong that our assumption that all life

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any life must be based on the carbon is

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is a is a fallacy it's an erroneous

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assumption so they called for reviewing

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all the previous work that we've done

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and to start expanding opening the

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window a little wider in order to see

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whether or not we missed something with

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regard to this I'd like to say that

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there's a dr. Levin who was in charge of

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the Mars Viking life research project

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and they claim to have found life in

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back back in 1976 when Viking landed

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they did an experiment and the

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experiment was to scoop up some dirt and

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to drop in some nutrients that had a

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little bit radioactivity in it and the

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premise was that if there were any

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microbial activity in the soil that it

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would eat the nutrient and exude gases

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that could be picked up because they

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were radioactive indeed they did and and

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an announcement was made that there was

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life on Mars then NASA quashed that

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finding and said that the experiment was

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wrong and that they did another

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experiment that that proved it was wrong

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well the experiment that they did was a

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different experiment and it was

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intentionally conducted to kill any life

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that was in the soil

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I was watching dr. Levin on a show on

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the Science Channel or science I yeah

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Science Channel I think it was and it

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was called NASA secret UFO FILES

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and he said that what had they had done

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is they had taken soil and cooked it and

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then tested that soil for life and he

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said how can you find any life in in

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soil that has been heated in such a way

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that it would kill any microbe real life

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he had thought he's taken fresh soil

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poured the nutrient in and up came the

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gases because you know a lot of people

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don't know the bacteria poop yeah now

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this is this term that the scientists

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cooked up for a alh84001 you know the

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the meteorite down in antarctica which

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also showed life life forms and microbes

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in it and they said it had been alive

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because they found pause PAHs poly

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aromatic hydrocarbons so you know what I

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mean it's a part a bacterial part so

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anyway the poly aromatic hydrocarbons

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were found in the specimen that came

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from Antarctica and I think it was dr.

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McKay came out and he announced that

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this was sign of life on Mars and even

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President Clinton came out and said hi

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we have great news and they found signs

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of life on Mars but each time that these

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findings have been brought forth they

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have been backtracked and quashed by

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NASA and this decision was made a year

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before we took off for the moon in 1967

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a decision was made officially at the

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highest levels of NASA and the highest

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levels of government that if we should

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ever find any evidence of life previous

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life present life previous civilizations

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higher intelligence civilization that

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the world should not be told because it

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would just be too disruptive to the

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social economic and political fabric of

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the planet so weird and I think that's

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such a fallacy I don't think that's

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necessarily true but um I wanted to get

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back to or just touch on the Saturn and

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Jupiter Sun thing again

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because it's this opens up a huge window

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for me because I have a few shows coming

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up where guests are going to be talking

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about the elite or the Illuminati

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whichever name you want to put on it and

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their worship of Saturn and Jupiter they

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have these cults that worshipped Saturn

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and Jupiter and that adds a really

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interesting layer and to hear that the

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UFOs might have been coming from one of

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Saturn's moons I mean maybe this is the

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big secret that these these elite are

541
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alluding to and all their symbolism in

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all their worship we're talking about a

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solar system war I won't call it

544
00:25:22,969 --> 00:25:20,789
galactic because they're not from other

545
00:25:25,549 --> 00:25:22,979
stars I don't believe you see I believe

546
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:25,559
this story about them being interstellar

547
00:25:30,919 --> 00:25:28,559
travelers yeah you know there might be

548
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:30,929
that but it's really not necessary I've

549
00:25:36,109 --> 00:25:33,210
always said I believe the greys are

550
00:25:38,299 --> 00:25:36,119
local yokels parallel evolution maybe a

551
00:25:41,089 --> 00:25:38,309
some kind of silicon-based life they've

552
00:25:43,580 --> 00:25:41,099
evolved on on Titan or some other

553
00:25:46,849 --> 00:25:43,590
planets but what I was going to say the

554
00:25:48,969 --> 00:25:46,859
legends tell us what happened mythology

555
00:25:51,649 --> 00:25:48,979
is not something that's not true

556
00:25:55,219 --> 00:25:51,659
mythology is something that contains an

557
00:25:57,589 --> 00:25:55,229
essential truth to be transferred in the

558
00:26:00,499 --> 00:25:57,599
simplest form possible so that the truth

559
00:26:02,739 --> 00:26:00,509
is maintained or the the fact is

560
00:26:06,649 --> 00:26:02,749
maintained what we're talking about is

561
00:26:09,619 --> 00:26:06,659
the war between the Olympians and the

562
00:26:12,589 --> 00:26:09,629
Titans the Olympians being the people

563
00:26:16,009 --> 00:26:12,599
from Jupiter and the Titans being the

564
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:16,019
ones from Saturn that's what I believe

565
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:19,369
we're dealing with a war that occurred

566
00:26:26,649 --> 00:26:22,799
perhaps also involving Mars I believe I

567
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:26,659
know I know that Mars was destroyed by a

568
00:26:32,719 --> 00:26:30,210
cataclysm of such incredible proportions

569
00:26:36,019 --> 00:26:32,729
that when I saw the after-effects

570
00:26:38,570 --> 00:26:36,029
I felt fear and dread in the pit of my

571
00:26:42,229 --> 00:26:38,580
stomach it's interesting that your logo

572
00:26:44,629 --> 00:26:42,239
here the higher side chat has the

573
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:44,639
microphone with an eye looking over it

574
00:26:50,719 --> 00:26:48,690
well the eye of Mars is a phenomenon

575
00:26:53,229 --> 00:26:50,729
that's been seen for over a hundred

576
00:26:56,029 --> 00:26:53,239
years Percival Lowell wrote about it and

577
00:26:58,909 --> 00:26:56,039
nobody could explain what it was

578
00:27:00,560 --> 00:26:58,919
but in 2003 I got to see Mars at its

579
00:27:03,859 --> 00:27:00,570
closest approach to planet Earth in

580
00:27:07,879 --> 00:27:03,869
60,000 years through a very high-level

581
00:27:09,919 --> 00:27:07,889
telescope 128 X super plaza lens which

582
00:27:13,460 --> 00:27:09,929
made Mars look a hundred and

583
00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,470
twenty-eight times closer then it was at

584
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:15,600
its closest point in sixty thousand

585
00:27:19,310 --> 00:27:17,609
years make a long story short let me

586
00:27:22,099 --> 00:27:19,320
just describe it this way what I saw

587
00:27:24,769 --> 00:27:22,109
through the telescope would be like you

588
00:27:26,570 --> 00:27:24,779
going out that any night there's a full

589
00:27:28,279 --> 00:27:26,580
moon looking at the full moon which is

590
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:28,289
two hundred and fifty thousand miles

591
00:27:32,719 --> 00:27:29,849
away okay

592
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:32,729
so thirty eight thousand miles divided

593
00:27:39,769 --> 00:27:35,970
by 128 comes to about two hundred and

594
00:27:43,759 --> 00:27:39,779
seventy one thousand miles Mars is twice

595
00:27:46,369 --> 00:27:43,769
as big as the moon so I saw through the

596
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:46,379
telescope something that you might

597
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:48,809
imagine if you went out and looked at

598
00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:51,179
the full moon one night it's two hundred

599
00:27:55,399 --> 00:27:53,159
and fifty thousand miles away imagine

600
00:27:57,499 --> 00:27:55,409
another object in the sky there was only

601
00:28:00,979 --> 00:27:57,509
twenty thousand miles farther away but

602
00:28:03,830 --> 00:28:00,989
twice as big as the moon Wow so that's

603
00:28:08,599 --> 00:28:03,840
how big that's how big I saw Mars and

604
00:28:12,229 --> 00:28:08,609
when I saw it I saw in one eye ball full

605
00:28:15,859 --> 00:28:12,239
of light and darkness that Mars was

606
00:28:19,129 --> 00:28:15,869
destroyed overnight its echo system was

607
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:19,139
utterly devastated by asteroid impacts

608
00:28:24,950 --> 00:28:21,570
and the asteroid impact that I'm talking

609
00:28:29,239 --> 00:28:24,960
about cracked the planet created the

610
00:28:32,029 --> 00:28:29,249
Valles Marineris that trench like Grand

611
00:28:35,930 --> 00:28:32,039
Canyon from San Diego to New York four

612
00:28:40,460 --> 00:28:35,940
times deeper eighteen miles wide as well

613
00:28:42,889 --> 00:28:40,470
as creating an uprise of mountains or a

614
00:28:46,879 --> 00:28:42,899
Highlands called the softest tarsus

615
00:28:51,799 --> 00:28:46,889
tarsus bulge so when I saw this I

616
00:28:55,239 --> 00:28:51,809
realized oh my god in one night like the

617
00:28:58,460 --> 00:28:55,249
story of Atlantis you know Mars may be a

618
00:29:01,279 --> 00:28:58,470
primordial recollection of Atlantis or

619
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:01,289
it's it's a cycle that civilizations

620
00:29:05,779 --> 00:29:03,450
rise and fall both on continents and

621
00:29:08,029 --> 00:29:05,789
planets and they are destroyed by

622
00:29:09,540 --> 00:29:08,039
natural events be that as it may

623
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:09,550
whichever it

624
00:29:14,820 --> 00:29:12,850
I saw these things I saw the hell as a

625
00:29:16,530 --> 00:29:14,830
basin still steaming it seemed to me

626
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:16,540
that one really frightened me I saw that

627
00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:18,250
one the night before I saw the eye of

628
00:29:24,450 --> 00:29:22,270
Mars and that is steaming I saw a vapors

629
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:24,460
rising out of the Hellas Basin which is

630
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:28,210
about 600 it's an elliptical impact

631
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:31,930
crater asteroid impact crater that's 600

632
00:29:37,770 --> 00:29:34,390
miles on the long axis of the oval and

633
00:29:40,890 --> 00:29:37,780
it looked like it was full of vapor and

634
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,900
it was fuming and smoking and it looked

635
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:43,120
to me like it had just hit another

636
00:29:47,490 --> 00:29:45,250
frightening look and I could see

637
00:29:50,340 --> 00:29:47,500
rainbows glimmering over the surface of

638
00:29:52,890 --> 00:29:50,350
this fluid or this vapors I could see

639
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:52,900
the edges rising and falling like water

640
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:56,050
does at the side of the ocean when waves

641
00:30:01,650 --> 00:29:57,970
are coming or the tide is going and

642
00:30:06,870 --> 00:30:01,660
coming and I could see the striations of

643
00:30:09,420 --> 00:30:06,880
of the of the the well the basin itself

644
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:09,430
and it looked like what we see in the

645
00:30:15,180 --> 00:30:12,730
Grand Canyon I think that people people

646
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:15,190
who gravitate to the Southwest the Grand

647
00:30:20,550 --> 00:30:18,670
Canyon in Arizona Utah may have a lot of

648
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:20,560
Martian genes in them and they like to

649
00:30:25,590 --> 00:30:22,330
be close to places that look like home

650
00:30:30,150 --> 00:30:25,600
wow that's my that's my intuition about

651
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:30,160
why people settle where they do so this

652
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:32,650
destruction of Mars by this Cataclysm

653
00:30:39,390 --> 00:30:36,610
was just self evident and then a couple

654
00:30:42,750 --> 00:30:39,400
of years later mission to Mars came with

655
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:42,760
Gary Sinise II and Tom Robbins and those

656
00:30:47,430 --> 00:30:45,550
it's a really fine film but everything

657
00:30:49,380 --> 00:30:47,440
I've told you is depicted at the end of

658
00:30:52,050 --> 00:30:49,390
that movie which was made with NASA's

659
00:30:53,610 --> 00:30:52,060
cooperation and when you see the end of

660
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:53,620
the movie when they walk into the face

661
00:30:57,860 --> 00:30:55,690
on Mars and walk into the room that has

662
00:30:59,970 --> 00:30:57,870
the hologram of the solar system

663
00:31:02,220 --> 00:30:59,980
everything I've just told you will be

664
00:31:04,260 --> 00:31:02,230
depicted as a matter of fact they are

665
00:31:06,450 --> 00:31:04,270
the asteroid impact that I've described

666
00:31:09,540 --> 00:31:06,460
that created the eye of Mars in the

667
00:31:12,810 --> 00:31:09,550
region called Solace lacus that asteroid

668
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:12,820
goes right under Gary Sinise's armpit

669
00:31:19,380 --> 00:31:16,000
you know then it's blown up you know and

670
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:19,390
the rendering is fantastic it's you know

671
00:31:22,529 --> 00:31:21,130
that type of disclosure happens in

672
00:31:25,229 --> 00:31:22,539
Hollywood films

673
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:25,239
well it's not weird it's it's planned

674
00:31:31,259 --> 00:31:28,690
they have to prepare us and let me tell

675
00:31:33,509 --> 00:31:31,269
you in 1965 I was watching a program

676
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,519
here in New York called the Alan Burke

677
00:31:38,249 --> 00:31:35,679
show this was a very intellectual fellow

678
00:31:41,159 --> 00:31:38,259
who used to sit for an hour with amazing

679
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:41,169
guests each Saturday night and one night

680
00:31:45,869 --> 00:31:43,570
he had Frank Edwards on discussing

681
00:31:48,119 --> 00:31:45,879
flying saucer serious business that's

682
00:31:51,509 --> 00:31:48,129
the name of his title of his book but

683
00:31:53,839 --> 00:31:51,519
the title of the book he did not make up

684
00:31:57,509 --> 00:31:53,849
the title comes from a statement made by

685
00:31:58,739 --> 00:31:57,519
Admiral Roscoe H hillenkoetter the first

686
00:32:03,779 --> 00:31:58,749
director of the Central Intelligence

687
00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:03,789
Agency who in February of 1960 made a

688
00:32:08,009 --> 00:32:05,529
public announcement that the Air Force

689
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:08,019
was hiding the reality of UFOs and

690
00:32:14,299 --> 00:32:10,809
flying saucers and he said that the Air

691
00:32:17,639 --> 00:32:14,309
Force was secretly harassing Airmen and

692
00:32:18,180 --> 00:32:17,649
Air Force personnel to keep their mouths

693
00:32:20,549 --> 00:32:18,190
shut

694
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:20,559
forbidding them to talk threatening them

695
00:32:26,999 --> 00:32:23,919
with legal action and punishment if they

696
00:32:29,639 --> 00:32:27,009
should divulge that that UFOs are real

697
00:32:33,349 --> 00:32:29,649
and the phrase that Admiral Helen Carter

698
00:32:36,449 --> 00:32:33,359
used was in the United States Air Force

699
00:32:38,969 --> 00:32:36,459
flying saucers are serious business

700
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:38,979
so Frank Edwards dropped the are he just

701
00:32:45,059 --> 00:32:40,690
called a flying saucer serious business

702
00:32:48,239 --> 00:32:45,069
but on this program he had he spoke at

703
00:32:52,319 --> 00:32:48,249
length about the need to prepare the

704
00:32:54,959 --> 00:32:52,329
public for content and he said that the

705
00:32:57,119 --> 00:32:54,969
CIA was well aware of the

706
00:32:59,869 --> 00:32:57,129
extra-terrestrial presence and flying

707
00:33:03,559 --> 00:32:59,879
saucers but that they felt that

708
00:33:07,649 --> 00:33:03,569
revealing it to the public in 1960 or

709
00:33:10,019 --> 00:33:07,659
yeah by the 1960 to 65 which was just 20

710
00:33:11,789 --> 00:33:10,029
to 25 years after the war of the worlds'

711
00:33:14,609 --> 00:33:11,799
panic that occurred when Orson Welles

712
00:33:16,469 --> 00:33:14,619
did his show that the government was

713
00:33:19,859 --> 00:33:16,479
very concerned that it might create a

714
00:33:24,779 --> 00:33:19,869
social upheaval loss of faith collapse

715
00:33:26,729 --> 00:33:24,789
of religions economic hardships and that

716
00:33:30,299 --> 00:33:26,739
it would depress the scientists the

717
00:33:31,889 --> 00:33:30,309
engineers and the doctors so badly that

718
00:33:32,639 --> 00:33:31,899
they might not even get up to go to work

719
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:32,649
the next morning

720
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:34,809
I'll talk about that paper a bit later

721
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:35,890
but

722
00:33:40,890 --> 00:33:37,810
was the more important point was this

723
00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:40,900
Frank Edwards said that the CIA had a

724
00:33:46,530 --> 00:33:43,780
plan of seven cycles of seven years

725
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:46,540
seven times seven forty nine years and

726
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:49,930
that within these seven cycles of seven

727
00:33:55,410 --> 00:33:52,410
years the public would be slowly

728
00:34:00,080 --> 00:33:55,420
acclimated to accept the

729
00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:00,090
extra-terrestrial presence as real and

730
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:02,860
persuaded that it is not hostile and

731
00:34:07,410 --> 00:34:05,470
that they were not really the evil

732
00:34:11,220 --> 00:34:07,420
monsters from outer space that were the

733
00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:11,230
typical depiction of aliens in the 1950s

734
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:15,700
it was the thing it came from outer

735
00:34:21,450 --> 00:34:19,210
space the crawling eye

736
00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:21,460
I married a monster from outer space

737
00:34:26,460 --> 00:34:23,649
everything was really hostile and lethal

738
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:26,470
and evil he said that slowly especially

739
00:34:31,770 --> 00:34:30,130
during the next there in the 70s a new

740
00:34:34,020 --> 00:34:31,780
kind of extraterrestrial would be

741
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:34,030
presented to us that would be less

742
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:37,690
frightening and slowly the public he

743
00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:39,970
said also that he said you are going to

744
00:34:45,240 --> 00:34:42,399
see films like you have never seen

745
00:34:47,070 --> 00:34:45,250
before you're going to see films with a

746
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:47,080
technology and special effects that you

747
00:34:51,389 --> 00:34:49,510
can't even imagine now and then when

748
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:51,399
Star Wars and Close Encounters of the

749
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:55,210
Third Kind came out in 1977 which is 12

750
00:34:59,850 --> 00:34:56,970
years after this conversation I said

751
00:35:02,430 --> 00:34:59,860
this is what Frank Edwards was talking

752
00:35:04,380 --> 00:35:02,440
about the Starfleet

753
00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:04,390
you know Darth Vader why do you think

754
00:35:09,870 --> 00:35:08,200
they have a Wookiee in Star Wars Bigfoot

755
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:09,880
hangs around with flying saucers they're

756
00:35:17,970 --> 00:35:15,610
you a lot of UFO events that are Coe

757
00:35:22,290 --> 00:35:17,980
temper aeneas with Bigfoot Bigfoot

758
00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:22,300
sightings around the world yeah so it is

759
00:35:29,790 --> 00:35:26,190
a serious issue and then as I said in

760
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:29,800
1967 NASA commissioned the Brookings

761
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:32,410
Institution a think tank like the RAND

762
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:35,650
Corporation to come up with a plan and

763
00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:37,510
for the peaceful uses of outer space

764
00:35:42,090 --> 00:35:40,240
that's what the the chapter is called on

765
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:42,100
the peaceful uses of outer space and

766
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:44,110
then if they deal with the subject of

767
00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:46,870
whether or not to reveal to the public

768
00:35:53,249 --> 00:35:49,839
if we were to find life

769
00:35:57,479 --> 00:35:53,259
on the moon or signs of life previous

770
00:35:59,670 --> 00:35:57,489
life or advanced civilizations that died

771
00:36:01,620 --> 00:35:59,680
away whether or not we should tell the

772
00:36:03,989 --> 00:36:01,630
public and the Brookings Institution

773
00:36:06,089 --> 00:36:03,999
said no you should not tell the public

774
00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:06,099
as I said because it would be too

775
00:36:12,150 --> 00:36:08,920
disruptive and they they emphasized

776
00:36:13,969 --> 00:36:12,160
religion above all other things that the

777
00:36:17,489 --> 00:36:13,979
religions would become destabilized

778
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:17,499
belief systems would be compromised and

779
00:36:22,170 --> 00:36:20,410
I don't know why they did this I think

780
00:36:24,059 --> 00:36:22,180
it's one of their control mechanisms so

781
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:24,069
what other control mechanisms goes away

782
00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:25,569
they're going to be upset so they want

783
00:36:30,509 --> 00:36:28,150
to preserve that but I don't think they

784
00:36:32,219 --> 00:36:30,519
generally care about the fragile minds

785
00:36:33,930 --> 00:36:32,229
of the religious people I think they

786
00:36:36,569 --> 00:36:33,940
just want to keep their control

787
00:36:38,670 --> 00:36:36,579
institution intact right well I say this

788
00:36:41,579 --> 00:36:38,680
that religion regardless of what you

789
00:36:43,979 --> 00:36:41,589
believe in it is it is a glue that holds

790
00:36:45,299 --> 00:36:43,989
societies together you know it's also

791
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:45,309
the cause for a lot of war though

792
00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:47,710
exactly sure sure but you know what I

793
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:49,089
was gonna say I don't know why they

794
00:36:53,969 --> 00:36:51,729
picked on the Buddhists they they said

795
00:36:59,489 --> 00:36:53,979
that the Buddhist religion would be

796
00:37:02,640 --> 00:36:59,499
upset and destabilized by the revelation

797
00:37:04,319 --> 00:37:02,650
of aliens you know civilizations or

798
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:04,329
extraterrestrial life and I said that's

799
00:37:09,299 --> 00:37:07,210
that's a lot of malarkey yeah as the

800
00:37:12,599 --> 00:37:09,309
Buddhists have so many gods so many

801
00:37:15,059 --> 00:37:12,609
demons Devils angels all a sparse are as

802
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:15,069
all kinds of creatures in their

803
00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:17,890
hierarchy you know from from the microbe

804
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:21,640
and the bug to the Godhead I don't think

805
00:37:26,789 --> 00:37:24,130
the Buddhists would have any trouble not

806
00:37:28,799 --> 00:37:26,799
only with with extraterrestrials as a

807
00:37:33,950 --> 00:37:28,809
matter of fact I believe that Buddhism

808
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:33,960
and Islam and Christianity were all

809
00:37:38,789 --> 00:37:36,190
Judaism were all started by

810
00:37:40,709 --> 00:37:38,799
extraterrestrial influences yeah they're

811
00:37:44,549 --> 00:37:40,719
in there and the early days and I

812
00:37:46,380 --> 00:37:44,559
thinking Bush was a landed UFO that

813
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:46,390
could make sense that's interesting a

814
00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:48,249
lot of people also think it's a

815
00:37:53,969 --> 00:37:51,910
psychedelic trip but yes it's definitely

816
00:37:57,479 --> 00:37:53,979
layered in symbolism and who knows what

817
00:37:58,769 --> 00:37:57,489
the real core story really was that's

818
00:38:00,620 --> 00:37:58,779
interesting you should say that because

819
00:38:03,589 --> 00:38:00,630
you know if you study the religious

820
00:38:07,699 --> 00:38:03,599
texts very often

821
00:38:10,789 --> 00:38:07,709
the the visionaries the visionaries who

822
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:10,799
see God or the angel Gabriel or the Lord

823
00:38:15,049 --> 00:38:12,690
they see the Lord in the Old Testament

824
00:38:17,660 --> 00:38:15,059
they see the Christ and the New

825
00:38:21,739 --> 00:38:17,670
Testament there's always an eating of

826
00:38:26,989 --> 00:38:21,749
something for example Daniel Daniel is

827
00:38:29,870 --> 00:38:26,999
told to take up the scroll and eat it

828
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:29,880
and then in the book of the revelations

829
00:38:36,349 --> 00:38:32,910
Saint John is told to take the book and

830
00:38:38,599 --> 00:38:36,359
eat it that'll be a bitter in his mouth

831
00:38:41,390 --> 00:38:38,609
and sweet in his stomach or vice versa

832
00:38:43,370 --> 00:38:41,400
but there's always ingestion and there's

833
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:43,380
a remarkable book written on this

834
00:38:47,479 --> 00:38:44,130
subject

835
00:38:51,319 --> 00:38:47,489
it's called sacred mushroom in the cross

836
00:38:53,449 --> 00:38:51,329
by John Allegro yes John Allegro is one

837
00:38:56,269 --> 00:38:53,459
of the foremost scholars on the Dead Sea

838
00:38:59,150 --> 00:38:56,279
Scrolls and he translated the copper

839
00:39:02,259 --> 00:38:59,160
scroll and I believe the war scroll but

840
00:39:06,999 --> 00:39:02,269
way back in the 70s he wrote a book

841
00:39:11,089 --> 00:39:07,009
positing that Christ Jesus Christ

842
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:11,099
initiated his disciples with the sacred

843
00:39:18,019 --> 00:39:15,390
mushroom and that many of the titles

844
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:18,029
that Jesus assumes and that are

845
00:39:23,989 --> 00:39:20,130
traditional in the Bible like son of man

846
00:39:25,969 --> 00:39:23,999
son of God are really allusions to the

847
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:25,979
name of the sacred mushroom in the

848
00:39:31,339 --> 00:39:28,170
Middle East that's called the flesh of

849
00:39:33,380 --> 00:39:31,349
God that's I recommend that book too to

850
00:39:35,689 --> 00:39:33,390
everyone I think yeah there's really

851
00:39:37,549 --> 00:39:35,699
about great insight and since I

852
00:39:40,430 --> 00:39:37,559
mentioned John Allegro in the Dead Sea

853
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:40,440
Scrolls I'd like to point out that in

854
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:42,930
the scroll called the chariots of glory

855
00:39:51,380 --> 00:39:47,849
it explicitly states that the angels of

856
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:51,390
the Lord were coming and going to the

857
00:39:59,930 --> 00:39:55,650
encampment at Qumran riding on chariots

858
00:40:02,599 --> 00:39:59,940
of glory it furthermore states that in

859
00:40:05,799 --> 00:40:02,609
the center of the Qumran encampment

860
00:40:09,319 --> 00:40:05,809
there was a tabernacle which was a tent

861
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:09,329
in which the angels would have

862
00:40:16,380 --> 00:40:13,890
intercourse with the women and they're

863
00:40:20,309 --> 00:40:16,390
very very strict

864
00:40:23,190 --> 00:40:20,319
hygienic rules and protocols one of

865
00:40:29,069 --> 00:40:23,200
which was dealing with the purification

866
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:29,079
ritual should any of the women receive

867
00:40:34,940 --> 00:40:32,200
angel seed on their arms or their legs

868
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:34,950
that it had to be cleaned completely and

869
00:40:40,859 --> 00:40:39,010
purified so apparently there was a lot

870
00:40:43,799 --> 00:40:40,869
of sexual intercourse going on between

871
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:43,809
these angels and Qumran women the other

872
00:40:51,809 --> 00:40:47,950
one which leads us to the conception of

873
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:51,819
Jesus you know now I'd like to play

874
00:40:57,269 --> 00:40:53,970
all right well listen you know we know a

875
00:41:00,349 --> 00:40:57,279
lot of people confuse two concepts in

876
00:41:03,829 --> 00:41:00,359
Christianity Immaculate Conception and

877
00:41:06,049 --> 00:41:03,839
virgin birth and they confused the two

878
00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:06,059
I'd like to clarify something

879
00:41:11,730 --> 00:41:08,920
theologically speaking according to the

880
00:41:15,059 --> 00:41:11,740
Christian dogma Immaculate Conception

881
00:41:17,720 --> 00:41:15,069
does not refer to Jesus's conception

882
00:41:20,789 --> 00:41:17,730
without without sexual intercourse

883
00:41:23,309 --> 00:41:20,799
Immaculate Conception refers to the

884
00:41:26,130 --> 00:41:23,319
conception of Mary's soul as the purest

885
00:41:29,609 --> 00:41:26,140
vessel held since the beginning of time

886
00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:29,619
by the Godhead in secret in perfect and

887
00:41:33,779 --> 00:41:31,720
sacred place where she could not her

888
00:41:36,359 --> 00:41:33,789
soul could not be contaminated because

889
00:41:38,660 --> 00:41:36,369
she would be the repository or the one

890
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:38,670
who would bring the Messiah to earth

891
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:42,970
virgin birth this is what we today would

892
00:41:51,569 --> 00:41:47,200
call artificial insemination so the

893
00:41:53,789 --> 00:41:51,579
inference is that Mary was preserved

894
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:53,799
from the beginning of time to be the

895
00:42:00,569 --> 00:41:57,430
purest vessel to conceive the Christ but

896
00:42:05,190 --> 00:42:00,579
the Christ himself was conceived without

897
00:42:08,359 --> 00:42:05,200
sexual intercourse and so we would call

898
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:08,369
it artificial insemination an

899
00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:12,130
interesting symbol is to be found in the

900
00:42:17,339 --> 00:42:14,920
Quran the Quran tells the story of

901
00:42:20,549 --> 00:42:17,349
Jesus's conception and the coming of the

902
00:42:22,650 --> 00:42:20,559
angel Gabriel and parallels the

903
00:42:24,839 --> 00:42:22,660
Christian except it makes one statement

904
00:42:28,769 --> 00:42:24,849
that the Christian Bible does not it

905
00:42:30,060 --> 00:42:28,779
says that Mary conceived because the

906
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:30,070
angel

907
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:33,640
Gabriel blew the word of God with a

908
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:38,410
trumpet into her ear strange somewhat

909
00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:41,110
unless you understand symbolism mm-hmm

910
00:42:46,350 --> 00:42:43,270
if you took two ears and put them

911
00:42:49,410 --> 00:42:46,360
together let's just say you know to

912
00:42:53,610 --> 00:42:49,420
several years and you put them earlobe

913
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:53,620
to earlobe what would you get guess it

914
00:42:59,130 --> 00:42:55,450
would look like a vagina and then you

915
00:43:01,140 --> 00:42:59,140
got a trumpet exactly so and now it says

916
00:43:03,540 --> 00:43:01,150
that the angel Gabriel used the trumpet

917
00:43:06,450 --> 00:43:03,550
to blow the Word of God into Mary's ear

918
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:06,460
so I think that's a pretty explicit

919
00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:08,290
description of an artificial

920
00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:10,900
insemination procedure yeah I can see

921
00:43:15,450 --> 00:43:13,150
that I definitely could that's it's an

922
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:15,460
interesting take on that stuff well you

923
00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:17,530
see we have to study a lot of different

924
00:43:23,370 --> 00:43:21,030
things you know only to get the

925
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:23,380
holographic image you know if you really

926
00:43:29,850 --> 00:43:26,650
one religious text and accept that is

927
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:29,860
the be-all and end-all it's kind of like

928
00:43:35,670 --> 00:43:31,570
seeing one one flat side like a

929
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:35,680
photograph but you read many or scores

930
00:43:41,220 --> 00:43:39,310
or hundreds and you start to see from

931
00:43:43,650 --> 00:43:41,230
all these different angles then you get

932
00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:43,660
what I would call a hologram you can

933
00:43:50,010 --> 00:43:45,760
walk around the subject look under and

934
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:50,020
above it and see with depth into it so I

935
00:43:58,190 --> 00:43:52,510
think all of us are part of this mystery

936
00:44:01,200 --> 00:43:58,200
and all of us contain that same seed

937
00:44:03,210 --> 00:44:01,210
yeah people people are really in shock

938
00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:03,220
these days and science doesn't know what

939
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:06,430
to do really with this very very

940
00:44:17,180 --> 00:44:09,910
delicate subject of the newest findings

941
00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:22,050
Neanderthal man was not human okay yeah

942
00:44:27,930 --> 00:44:24,640
if you look at the tree you know the

943
00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:27,940
Darwinian tree of evolution it started

944
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:30,790
with you know the proto hominid and then

945
00:44:35,310 --> 00:44:33,730
Homo erectus and then the human and they

946
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:35,320
believed that the human came down and

947
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:38,560
branched off into you know cro-magnon

948
00:44:42,690 --> 00:44:40,960
and and the and earth all and that they

949
00:44:43,890 --> 00:44:42,700
lived to cohabitate it and then

950
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:43,900
cro-magnon white

951
00:44:50,970 --> 00:44:47,440
Neanderthal well the most recent DNA

952
00:44:54,170 --> 00:44:50,980
studies show that Neanderthal was not

953
00:44:58,579 --> 00:44:54,180
human it came down along a different

954
00:45:01,200 --> 00:44:58,589
evolutionary pathway and then

955
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:01,210
Neanderthal crossed with the proto

956
00:45:07,890 --> 00:45:03,970
hominid as it existed in North Africa

957
00:45:12,299 --> 00:45:07,900
and in Siberia and that that crossing is

958
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:12,309
what created the Caucasian race hmm and

959
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:15,450
so Africans do not have this Neanderthal

960
00:45:23,339 --> 00:45:20,770
gene and all Caucasians do interesting

961
00:45:27,059 --> 00:45:23,349
there's so much fascinating stuff about

962
00:45:29,279 --> 00:45:27,069
about bloodlines and about the history

963
00:45:31,289 --> 00:45:29,289
of these different these different

964
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:31,299
species that you say some some might

965
00:45:35,279 --> 00:45:33,400
have even originated off off the planet

966
00:45:37,529 --> 00:45:35,289
earth and we got about ten minutes left

967
00:45:41,819 --> 00:45:37,539
I kind of did want to get to some of

968
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:41,829
those those alien races if we could well

969
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:43,270
because you mentioned the Olympians

970
00:45:46,859 --> 00:45:44,770
versus the Titans and that's fascinating

971
00:45:52,109 --> 00:45:46,869
to me I mean do you think those are the

972
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:52,119
greys and the Nordics I would think so I

973
00:45:59,670 --> 00:45:56,010
would think that we can't even imagine

974
00:46:02,430 --> 00:45:59,680
you know what it really was this is

975
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:02,440
talking about spiritual warfare yet if

976
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:07,770
it demonstrates and describes tremendous

977
00:46:14,490 --> 00:46:10,240
technological power as a matter of fact

978
00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:14,500
before Homer the Theogony was written by

979
00:46:20,940 --> 00:46:17,470
Hesiod Hesiod's Theogony is the origins

980
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:20,950
of the gods and you will never ever read

981
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:24,609
a more explicit description of an atomic

982
00:46:35,059 --> 00:46:28,960
bomb than the point at which Hesiod

983
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:35,069
describes this destroying the Titans

984
00:46:42,599 --> 00:46:38,410
with his his thunderbolt his lightning

985
00:46:44,670 --> 00:46:42,609
ball you will read you read that passage

986
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:44,680
and you are reading the description of

987
00:46:49,799 --> 00:46:48,250
Hiroshima right which brings to another

988
00:46:52,049 --> 00:46:49,809
subject guys since we do have such a

989
00:46:54,390 --> 00:46:52,059
short time left I'm I want to bring it

990
00:46:57,660 --> 00:46:54,400
back to to the moon project that I'm

991
00:47:00,240 --> 00:46:57,670
going to present at San Mateo at the

992
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:00,250
a secret space program breakaway

993
00:47:04,980 --> 00:47:02,530
civilization conference I'm going to be

994
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:04,990
showing photographs taken by the Apollo

995
00:47:12,750 --> 00:47:10,290
astronauts in 72 from 68 to 72 showing

996
00:47:15,569 --> 00:47:12,760
what is really on the moon that there

997
00:47:18,180 --> 00:47:15,579
are towers escort has been described in

998
00:47:20,849 --> 00:47:18,190
rumor and story since the 1970s when I

999
00:47:23,099 --> 00:47:20,859
first heard about it I released a photo

1000
00:47:26,099 --> 00:47:23,109
to you of a tower that I've named Big

1001
00:47:30,299 --> 00:47:26,109
Ben yeah it's crazy looking it's out of

1002
00:47:33,720 --> 00:47:30,309
this world literally and then there is a

1003
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:33,730
constellation of space stations that has

1004
00:47:41,309 --> 00:47:37,930
been orbiting and parked on the far side

1005
00:47:44,609 --> 00:47:41,319
of the moon since at least the 1960s and

1006
00:47:47,970 --> 00:47:44,619
I will be presenting photographs of this

1007
00:47:50,670 --> 00:47:47,980
constellation of space stations which

1008
00:47:53,039 --> 00:47:50,680
were seen and photographed by the

1009
00:47:55,859 --> 00:47:53,049
astronauts I sent you another photograph

1010
00:47:59,309 --> 00:47:55,869
that I dubbed the moon ring sir I showed

1011
00:48:01,200 --> 00:47:59,319
you I sent you two frames this is one of

1012
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:01,210
the most amazing pieces of film that I

1013
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:03,910
have ever seen and I recently discovered

1014
00:48:08,370 --> 00:48:06,640
it and what it was is that one of the

1015
00:48:10,620 --> 00:48:08,380
astronauts you know the astronauts were

1016
00:48:13,650 --> 00:48:10,630
all really high-tech military men and

1017
00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:13,660
fighter pilots and guys got what I call

1018
00:48:21,329 --> 00:48:16,690
guys with fast eyes so one of the

1019
00:48:23,940 --> 00:48:21,339
astronauts on Apollo 16 saw this thing

1020
00:48:26,010 --> 00:48:23,950
coming and he jumped to the window with

1021
00:48:29,250 --> 00:48:26,020
his camera ready and he tracked this

1022
00:48:32,069 --> 00:48:29,260
thing across the moon and the way it I

1023
00:48:34,799 --> 00:48:32,079
saw it I could not believe it it looked

1024
00:48:36,630 --> 00:48:34,809
to me like Wonder Woman's airplane

1025
00:48:38,579 --> 00:48:36,640
remember Wonder Woman had of this

1026
00:48:40,410 --> 00:48:38,589
invisible airplane like glass and a

1027
00:48:44,299 --> 00:48:40,420
glass airplane I know maybe you're too

1028
00:48:47,220 --> 00:48:44,309
young but she had a glass a sort of

1029
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:47,230
transparent or translucent airplane that

1030
00:48:52,980 --> 00:48:50,290
would be camouflaged by its see-through

1031
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:52,990
appearance well I see this thing racing

1032
00:48:57,839 --> 00:48:55,119
across the moon and this astronaut my

1033
00:49:00,089 --> 00:48:57,849
god what an eye and what what

1034
00:49:02,250 --> 00:49:00,099
coordination because he got this thing

1035
00:49:05,039 --> 00:49:02,260
perfectly centered in the camera

1036
00:49:08,190 --> 00:49:05,049
swooping over the surface of the Moon

1037
00:49:10,270 --> 00:49:08,200
and then rising up past the horizon of

1038
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:10,280
the moon into outer space

1039
00:49:19,450 --> 00:49:14,810
and for three frames they allowed us to

1040
00:49:22,750 --> 00:49:19,460
see it now who is they they is a good

1041
00:49:24,820 --> 00:49:22,760
NASA guy who was told listen cut this

1042
00:49:27,310 --> 00:49:24,830
thing out of the film you know we can't

1043
00:49:30,430 --> 00:49:27,320
let the public see this so what he did

1044
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:30,440
is he left the parts in which it is most

1045
00:49:36,370 --> 00:49:33,770
difficult to discern the spacecraft that

1046
00:49:40,060 --> 00:49:36,380
I called the moon racer but he didn't

1047
00:49:40,750 --> 00:49:40,070
leave two and a half I call it I said

1048
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:40,760
three friends

1049
00:49:46,690 --> 00:49:43,610
two and a half frames intact where we

1050
00:49:49,750 --> 00:49:46,700
could see the craft crossing the horizon

1051
00:49:53,410 --> 00:49:49,760
and then fully out of the raha Rison in

1052
00:49:56,440 --> 00:49:53,420
outer space and the third frame shows a

1053
00:49:58,960 --> 00:49:56,450
cut and it's literal it's like a razor

1054
00:50:01,570 --> 00:49:58,970
cut through the film where it's joined

1055
00:50:04,270 --> 00:50:01,580
this film was not supposed to have any

1056
00:50:08,020 --> 00:50:04,280
kind of cuts because it's supposed to be

1057
00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:08,030
the intact onboard camera yeah but look

1058
00:50:11,740 --> 00:50:10,250
this at photo now it's it's pretty crazy

1059
00:50:13,060 --> 00:50:11,750
and people will be able to see that if

1060
00:50:15,370 --> 00:50:13,070
you go to the episode where we're

1061
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:15,380
talking if you go to the actual website

1062
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:17,570
where I post it on the page I will also

1063
00:50:22,930 --> 00:50:20,450
include these these photos but yeah they

1064
00:50:23,350 --> 00:50:22,940
definitely make you wonder what's out

1065
00:50:25,780 --> 00:50:23,360
there

1066
00:50:29,860 --> 00:50:25,790
it's a beautiful craft I've never seen

1067
00:50:33,580 --> 00:50:29,870
anything as beautiful as streamlined as

1068
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:33,590
aerodynamic Aero spatially dynamic is

1069
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:36,050
that thing and there is no reactive

1070
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:38,570
propulsion this thing is is really

1071
00:50:45,580 --> 00:50:43,010
moving like a magnetic bullet and as I

1072
00:50:48,130 --> 00:50:45,590
see it I can see where the how the

1073
00:50:52,780 --> 00:50:48,140
technology of this craft would involve

1074
00:50:55,450 --> 00:50:52,790
magnetic fields and you know different

1075
00:50:57,160 --> 00:50:55,460
polarities on the wings or the nose and

1076
00:51:00,160 --> 00:50:57,170
the tail it's a really fantastic craft

1077
00:51:03,430 --> 00:51:00,170
so that's one of them the third I want

1078
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:03,440
to point out that this film the lunar

1079
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:06,530
rover went rambling around in the region

1080
00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:08,720
of the crater Descartes and one of the

1081
00:51:13,390 --> 00:51:09,950
things that really has always bothered

1082
00:51:15,140 --> 00:51:13,400
me about the Apollo 16 landing and the

1083
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:15,150
Apollo

1084
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:17,850
14 landing is that when you see the

1085
00:51:24,050 --> 00:51:20,090
landing sites from the lunar orbiter

1086
00:51:27,620 --> 00:51:24,060
photos it is surrounded by high rising

1087
00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:27,630
craggy mountains Peaks partially

1088
00:51:32,690 --> 00:51:30,300
collapsed domes and you know all kinds

1089
00:51:35,330 --> 00:51:32,700
of structures and yet when you see the

1090
00:51:38,450 --> 00:51:35,340
photos taken from the surface it looks

1091
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:38,460
like flat land you know and it turns out

1092
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:41,850
that NASA has had a very bad habit of

1093
00:51:47,090 --> 00:51:44,970
erasing all the background stars they

1094
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:47,100
blacken out the sky they put in

1095
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:52,400
artificial horizons and in the in the

1096
00:51:59,870 --> 00:51:57,210
fortunately in the Apollo 1617 photos

1097
00:52:03,080 --> 00:51:59,880
that I'm analyzing the some of the stars

1098
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:03,090
were not erased but in the two photos of

1099
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:06,330
the rover I say one of them is UFO

1100
00:52:17,120 --> 00:52:11,970
rising lunar rover UFO rising and then

1101
00:52:19,850 --> 00:52:17,130
another one says UF / / the true horizon

1102
00:52:22,310 --> 00:52:19,860
or the real horizon because I conducted

1103
00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:22,320
an enhancement on this one frame where I

1104
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:25,380
found a UFO like looks like a missile

1105
00:52:29,780 --> 00:52:28,290
being launched and then when I improve

1106
00:52:34,130 --> 00:52:29,790
the quality you can see it's really

1107
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:34,140
cylindrical and luminous and then I did

1108
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:36,480
one more operation which is called

1109
00:52:42,620 --> 00:52:39,570
equalization equalization the computer

1110
00:52:46,730 --> 00:52:42,630
finds areas that are really close to

1111
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:46,740
each other in their in their color for

1112
00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:49,170
example all the whites of a certain

1113
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:50,940
color all the grays and certainly all

1114
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:52,800
the Blues of a certain hue will be

1115
00:53:01,970 --> 00:52:55,680
joined so the 3rd floor the fourth photo

1116
00:53:05,060 --> 00:53:01,980
there of the Apollo 16 shows the real

1117
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:05,070
contour of the terrain you can see those

1118
00:53:10,220 --> 00:53:06,930
craggy mountains that I was talking

1119
00:53:14,630 --> 00:53:10,230
about appearing in the background and I

1120
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:14,640
thought that that UFO was passing by the

1121
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:17,370
moon going on the other side of the

1122
00:53:24,290 --> 00:53:19,650
horizon and falling past the moon or

1123
00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:24,300
being shot in space right but that photo

1124
00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:26,310
shows that this thing was rising from

1125
00:53:30,099 --> 00:53:27,670
the land of

1126
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:30,109
the terrain of the moon because you see

1127
00:53:35,799 --> 00:53:32,210
the mountain range behind it uh-huh

1128
00:53:38,279 --> 00:53:35,809
there's a black outline looks almost

1129
00:53:42,849 --> 00:53:38,289
like a dinosaur's back it's so craggy

1130
00:53:45,519 --> 00:53:42,859
that I'm convinced that this these you

1131
00:53:47,289 --> 00:53:45,529
there are two UFOs that were coming down

1132
00:53:49,029 --> 00:53:47,299
in that area coming down and going up

1133
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:49,039
and I thought they were just going by

1134
00:53:54,009 --> 00:53:51,710
and passing the moon but it shows that

1135
00:53:57,579 --> 00:53:54,019
there is land behind terrain behind

1136
00:54:00,999 --> 00:53:57,589
there and so we have even more mysteries

1137
00:54:03,130 --> 00:54:01,009
but some good NASA guy was told to clip

1138
00:54:06,940 --> 00:54:03,140
the film and he clip the film as he was

1139
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:06,950
ordered but thank God he left us two

1140
00:54:10,539 --> 00:54:08,329
frames so that we can really see that

1141
00:54:13,749 --> 00:54:10,549
clear picture of the moon racer yeah I

1142
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:13,759
love that thing that is really really

1143
00:54:18,370 --> 00:54:16,970
odd oh hey man this has been a great

1144
00:54:20,049 --> 00:54:18,380
talk I really enjoyed you coming down

1145
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:20,059
here before we go I wanted to ask you

1146
00:54:24,309 --> 00:54:22,250
one completely unrelated question

1147
00:54:26,410 --> 00:54:24,319
because I've heard you talk about the

1148
00:54:28,509 --> 00:54:26,420
chupacabra before and that you act

1149
00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:28,519
because that's near my area you know I'm

1150
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:30,950
here in San Diego and I've heard you say

1151
00:54:35,470 --> 00:54:32,930
that it's actually an intelligent race

1152
00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:35,480
of some kind maybe extraterrestrial

1153
00:54:41,499 --> 00:54:38,329
superior to humans and Intel yeah yeah

1154
00:54:46,779 --> 00:54:41,509
yeah it's intelligent I see I went to

1155
00:54:49,809 --> 00:54:46,789
Puerto Rico in 1978 and I had some very

1156
00:54:52,140 --> 00:54:49,819
unusual experiences down there and I

1157
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:52,150
started to latch on to this chupacabra

1158
00:55:00,069 --> 00:54:56,690
mystery and over the years I've had a

1159
00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:00,079
lot of experience with with this

1160
00:55:04,779 --> 00:55:02,150
phenomenon and I've come to the

1161
00:55:08,009 --> 00:55:04,789
conclusion that the chupacabra is

1162
00:55:10,779 --> 00:55:08,019
actually analogous to the grey

1163
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:10,789
extraterrestrials hunting dog but

1164
00:55:20,980 --> 00:55:16,210
imagine imagine a hunting dog that is

1165
00:55:25,170 --> 00:55:20,990
telepathic and more intelligent than a

1166
00:55:28,539 --> 00:55:25,180
human and telepathic on a psychic level

1167
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:28,549
into such a degree that it can read the

1168
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:31,970
person's belief system and then project

1169
00:55:37,509 --> 00:55:34,450
a thought and convince the person that

1170
00:55:40,089 --> 00:55:37,519
either they're having a dream or they're

1171
00:55:40,780 --> 00:55:40,099
having a hallucination or they can

1172
00:55:43,900 --> 00:55:40,790
actually

1173
00:55:47,350 --> 00:55:43,910
shift into something else but the three

1174
00:55:52,530 --> 00:55:47,360
the three puncture wounds in the side of

1175
00:55:57,820 --> 00:55:52,540
the animals the the method of extracting

1176
00:56:00,580 --> 00:55:57,830
the tissues that it needs it convinces

1177
00:56:06,190 --> 00:56:00,590
me that this creature is very stealthy

1178
00:56:08,410 --> 00:56:06,200
and it attacks what it needs and then it

1179
00:56:11,590 --> 00:56:08,420
takes back what it got to its masters

1180
00:56:14,170 --> 00:56:11,600
and that's that's my take on Chupacabra

1181
00:56:16,090 --> 00:56:14,180
wow that's that's actually part

1182
00:56:18,100 --> 00:56:16,100
privately I can tell you more about this

1183
00:56:20,770 --> 00:56:18,110
privately when we're off the air

1184
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:20,780
yeah very just too disturbing to many

1185
00:56:24,670 --> 00:56:22,490
people to hear what what I've got to say

1186
00:56:27,370 --> 00:56:24,680
I don't believe that they are also

1187
00:56:29,590 --> 00:56:27,380
involved in the abduction of human

1188
00:56:31,390 --> 00:56:29,600
beings that they're the they're the

1189
00:56:32,290 --> 00:56:31,400
short little creatures that are sent in

1190
00:56:35,020 --> 00:56:32,300
mm-hmm

1191
00:56:37,570 --> 00:56:35,030
carry people away Wow I'm gonna do a

1192
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:37,580
show on on that subject abductions and

1193
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,090
and what what the purpose and the reason

1194
00:56:45,250 --> 00:56:43,040
is and why the government safir's it so

1195
00:56:47,290 --> 00:56:45,260
much yes at another time

1196
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:47,300
we definitely should yeah this has been

1197
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:49,970
awesome and I look forward to seeing you

1198
00:56:53,770 --> 00:56:52,370
at the conference man I mean hopefully

1199
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:53,780
we can do it again sometime for sure I

1200
00:56:58,480 --> 00:56:55,610
know there's a ton of meat left on these

1201
00:56:59,950 --> 00:56:58,490
bones you know but okay yeah once again

1202
00:57:01,660 --> 00:56:59,960
you know for the people we will both be

1203
00:57:03,970 --> 00:57:01,670
at the secret space program and

1204
00:57:06,310 --> 00:57:03,980
breakaway civilization conference in a

1205
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:06,320
little over a week from now it's gonna

1206
00:57:11,590 --> 00:57:09,290
be the next weekend the 28th and 29th in

1207
00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:11,600
San Mateo California I'm going to be

1208
00:57:14,830 --> 00:57:13,430
selling conspiracies at my booth Roberts

1209
00:57:16,990 --> 00:57:14,840
gonna be dropping knowledge on the main

1210
00:57:18,850 --> 00:57:17,000
stage is there anything else you'd like

1211
00:57:25,330 --> 00:57:18,860
to leave the people with before we call

1212
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:25,340
it in let's see yes I would like

1213
00:57:31,870 --> 00:57:29,330
everyone who enjoys this subject to

1214
00:57:34,780 --> 00:57:31,880
remember that we have to have sound

1215
00:57:38,860 --> 00:57:34,790
minds and sound bodies and I want to

1216
00:57:41,620 --> 00:57:38,870
promote the idea of adopting frisbee

1217
00:57:43,270 --> 00:57:41,630
especially the versions of frisbee that

1218
00:57:45,970 --> 00:57:43,280
I've developed called Martian double

1219
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:45,980
disc frisbee as the official sport of

1220
00:57:52,450 --> 00:57:50,330
ufologists and so my discs to California

1221
00:57:54,310 --> 00:57:52,460
and Greg I hope you play you play for it

1222
00:57:54,730 --> 00:57:54,320
because I'll I love for his B golf so I

1223
00:57:58,780 --> 00:57:54,740
mean

1224
00:58:01,300 --> 00:57:58,790
okay well I teach and practice a martial

1225
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,310
art i Chi form of Frisbee and we take

1226
00:58:05,890 --> 00:58:03,200
two frisbees and put them one inside the

1227
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:05,900
other nested we throw the frisbee as one

1228
00:58:13,810 --> 00:58:10,310
as it flies it splits into two and you

1229
00:58:17,170 --> 00:58:13,820
have to catch the two either one with

1230
00:58:20,410 --> 00:58:17,180
each hand or as I've learned to do two

1231
00:58:21,190 --> 00:58:20,420
or three with one hand wow that's like

1232
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:21,200
we're on man

1233
00:58:25,060 --> 00:58:23,119
I hold the world records for triple

1234
00:58:27,070 --> 00:58:25,070
frisbees we have three frisbees that fit

1235
00:58:30,010 --> 00:58:27,080
into each other we sling them and they

1236
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:30,020
sail and you have to make instantaneous

1237
00:58:36,370 --> 00:58:33,730
decisions and pattern interception

1238
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:36,380
trajectories to be able to catch three

1239
00:58:40,690 --> 00:58:38,450
to one in each hand and then the third

1240
00:58:42,790 --> 00:58:40,700
one with with one or the other hand but

1241
00:58:46,690 --> 00:58:42,800
I got the skill level high enough a few

1242
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:46,700
years ago to have caught 12 triples with

1243
00:58:53,620 --> 00:58:50,930
one hand 134 triples in one hour and I

1244
00:58:56,620 --> 00:58:53,630
do like to emphasize the importance of

1245
00:58:58,359 --> 00:58:56,630
physicality you see I don't so many

1246
00:59:02,320 --> 00:58:58,369
people are walking around as I call them

1247
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:02,330
brains with legs yeah you know and we

1248
00:59:06,940 --> 00:59:04,910
are humans and the human body is what

1249
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:06,950
defines us as humans well we've been

1250
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:08,810
trying to catch flying saucers for years

1251
00:59:13,930 --> 00:59:10,490
so I think that's a perfect game for

1252
00:59:15,550 --> 00:59:13,940
ufologists okay so Greg I'll look

1253
00:59:16,870 --> 00:59:15,560
forward to play some discs with you when

1254
00:59:18,849 --> 00:59:16,880
I get out to California

1255
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:18,859
absolutely Robert it's been a pleasure

1256
00:59:23,050 --> 00:59:21,650
thanks so much stop by the conspiracies

1257
00:59:24,490 --> 00:59:23,060
booth and say hello if you get the

1258
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:24,500
chance and we'll go out there to the

1259
00:59:28,420 --> 00:59:26,210
quad and we'll throw some frisbees

1260
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:28,430
I certainly will alright man you have a

1261
00:59:34,570 --> 00:59:30,290
good one thank you very much

1262
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:34,580
bye bye there it is people there it is I

1263
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:36,530
hope to see some of you next weekend at

1264
00:59:40,570 --> 00:59:38,480
the secret space program conference and

1265
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:40,580
we'll play some frisbee with Rob smoke a

1266
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:42,410
lot of weed and listen to some sick-ass

1267
00:59:46,359 --> 00:59:44,690
presentations joining on the money bomb

1268
00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:46,369
and next week we'll have two winners and

1269
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:48,200
a phenomenal conversation with John

1270
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:50,450
Perkins author of confessions of an

1271
00:59:55,210 --> 00:59:52,730
economic hitman and a major player in

1272
00:59:57,490 --> 00:59:55,220
the movie zeitgeist addendum it is not

1273
00:59:59,530 --> 00:59:57,500
one to miss thanks for listening I love

1274
01:00:01,130 --> 00:59:59,540
you guys take care of yourself I'll see